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OMG I had my best game ever! I got my first joystick ( méoui ) in Hell and left it with 4-5 lives! I just quit playing to save the amazing game! I am soooo Happy!
Thank you all for the advice and support!

Venus

Nice sailorvenus, congrats!
I didn't get the N64 pad yet, but I agree with the PD's mentioned by fabianh, except I include PD15 as well and only go into PD51 if I have less than 13 (or so) lifes In addition, I deliberately keep my score low so I can cash in more lifes later in hell, effectively ensuring that the fireball comes later. If I plan to go into PD51, this means as few points as possible until the last level of PD51, from there take whatever you like, but try to enter hell with <500k, and try to enter TT with just under 1M. If I don't go into PD51, I usually start collecting points at the end of PD43, the rest is the same. That way, you delay the point where the fireball comes in hell, and you can collect your extra lifes at a point where you really need them. Hope this helps, good luck unblocking it!

PS. I realize this method means in total I will have collected 1-2 lifes less, but I believe the effective use of them benefits me more..

I just was a bit bored, so I went into the top profiles of this server (those with 100+ C5s) and got some statistics on C5s and C6s. I looked at all those where I could have a look at all their items from either a Tower of Greed or an eternalfest page.

The players I looked at combined had
- 810 effect C5s
- 600 point C5s
- 46 effect C6s
- 17 point C6s

Now let me do some 3rd grade maths and throw out some percentages I find interesting:
- 42,6 % of all C5s are point C5s
- 27,0 % of all C6s are point C6s
- for every 22,4 C5s there is one C6

Now I remember reading about the chances for items of the different Coefficient levels in the French forum. If I recall it correctly it is ~

- 1/2 for C1s
- 1/3 for C2s
- 1/8 for C3s
- 1/65 for C4s
- 1/700 for C5s
- 1/22'000 for C6s

These chances contradict our statistics a bit since chances for C6s are lower than our statistics suggest, but I'll go with them anyways.

According to these chances
- 1/1645 items is a point C5, and 1/21'385 items is a specific point C5.
- 1/1219 items is an effect C5, and 1/8530 items is a specific effect C5 (ignoring ).
- 1/81'529 items is a point C6, and 1/326'118 items is a specific point C6.
- 1/30'130 items is an effect C6, and 1/120'522 items is a specific effect C6.

This means that on average it should take you roughly 2,5x longer to unblock a point C5 than to unblock an effect C5, and roughly 2,7x longer to unblock a point C6 than to unblock an effect C6.

Also the average player with 100 C5s will have 57,4 effect C5s, 42,6 point C5s, 3,26 effect C6s and 1,21 point C6s.

Now let's say you are a pretty decent player and can get to the boss and additionally do a few pds every game, so I'll assume you get 300 (non C0) items per game.
This would mean that on average it will take you ~284 games to unblock a specific effect C5, ~713 games to unblock a specific point C5, ~4017 games to unblock a specific effect C6 and ~10'871 games to unblock a specific point C6.
Just a quick heads up for everyone who had always hoped to unblock a C6 one day. And to demonstrate the immense luck Joe had

Remember that these are theoretical thoughts based on item chances which I don't know for sure if they're accurate and the small sample size of 7 of our top players.

Sometimes when I look through old forum threads I stumble upon some strange accounts ... like this one.

unblocked, but neither the quest completed nor unblocked.

One of the reasons I stopped playing this game is that I never found the book to unlock the ability to kick bombs upwards.
Now I logged back in and I have 4748 , but I assume I would not find it even if I use up all of them.

Hey yo everyone !

My name is yuuty and I'm in charge of filling the pages on Hamm4All the new helping website on Hammerfest.

On Cadomax we used to have little videos to show how to make the orders but we do still lack some of them...

So if you wanna contribute by filming those orders those are the requirements:

The order must be filmed without losing a life.

The order must be filmed without using an item, it also goes the same as using the shield of an umbrella taken at a previous level

The order must be filmed since the beggining of the level (otherzise we can't tell if you used an item or a shield)

The orders containing leeches can be done with losing lives

Nearly-impossible orders such as 98 or 62 can be done with items

This the the list of orders missing is here
Once you filmed it you can contact me by mail which is on my profile page or through Hammerfest discord server on channel #Hamm4All .

Good luck everyone

yuuty

Before Cadomax disappeared I grabbed most of the levels orders. I may be able to help you out on some. Will check in the next day or two and let you know.

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Cadomax hasn't disappeared. Some subsections are gone, but the orders are still there. Also the orders are all known, what's missing is the videos


fabianh

Ah. I tried my old bookmarked links for it and most were dead in the water.

First win on Nightmare mode! Based on my number of , it took 27 tries, although it seems like it's been more than that.