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Odd One Out

Le Panthéon ! 1
Friday 08 May 2009 19:28
I think 11 is kinda out there because you could also say 68 as it is the only one without immediate effects.

The only reason I point this out is, as a puzzle maker, the biggest problem is not creating a puzzle with a difficult solution, but creating one without an easier alternative answer that is, to the maker, incorrect. There's probably a name for this but I'm not sure what it is.

Take sudoku for instance. Interestingly the hardest puzzles to solve are also the hardest to create. What makes them particularly difficult is that you have to make sure you didn't accidentally leave the possibility of multiple solutions which would remove a degree of difficulty, as well as the potential for having to guess if the possibility occurs early on. This is why I hate lateral thinking problems; they require a second person who already knows the answer to ask questions of, the puzzle just doesn't make sense otherwise. They give the impression of someone with a clever idea being too lazy to come up with a clever layout that gives you all the pieces without also directly giving you the solution.

*ahem* OK, that was an unnecessary tangent. I applaud anyone who wants to make puzzles like this, they are neat! And now I will go back and look at the rest of yours that are unfinished and come up with a solution. Don't take this too seriously, I do it enough for myself.
Your friendly neighborhood ColdFrog * 27 *
Pyramid level: 1 133
Friday 08 May 2009 19:37
Coldfrog: You got a point, but for me, the most important thing is that the item is correct, and that the reason is corect as well. At least, sometimes. Like #12, there will propably be 1 more that will require a correct description of it. Obviously, the later ones should have harder solutions, like 19 82 6 28 1162 85 , the answer is the sushi because it's the only item that doesn't turn enemies into diamonds, instead of "1162 , because it's the only non-effect item"
Le Panthéon ! 1
Friday 08 May 2009 19:37
OK, for number 15 I can't remember for sure about the rest but I believe 11 is the only one you can get without completing any quests.

Oh, and I also realize my rant is incorrect, I forgot that the candle actually does (as my girlfriend so recently pointed out) cause the light around Igor to brighten very slightly. So ignore that little bit. La la la. It's been so long since I completed that quest I thought that's all it did :P
Pyramid level: 1 133
Friday 08 May 2009 20:45
Sorry, but you are wrong.
2 chances till the answer is revealed and the puzzle will be marked "Unsolved"
Pyramid level: 2 476
Friday 08 May 2009 22:43
#15: 11 as it is the only one that is NOT coeff. 2
Pyramid level: 1 133
Friday 08 May 2009 23:05
Incorrect! 1 chance left!

Your message is too short, you surely have something more to say! :)
Le Panthéon ! 1
Friday 08 May 2009 23:14
Unfair ;) We already had this guess^^
Le Panthéon ! 1
Saturday 09 May 2009 00:33
That took a while to spot: 1082 because it is the only one not required for a quest.

This is still a bit unfair if there are multiple answers, its just luck spotting the 'correct' answer. Then again, finding something which all but one object has can be fun :).(I think answers answers like only one that does have something is silly, because regardless of how they are picked, every object will have a unique thing about then, like gives exactly that amount of points :P. Then again, these have never been the correct answer, just guesses, which is good).
Pyramid level: 1 133
Saturday 09 May 2009 12:35
Pigletto finally got it right.
I'll post the rest after a while, I need to refresh my mind now. I just came here to see if it was solved.
Le Panthéon ! 1
Saturday 09 May 2009 16:44
If you post a reply like:

#1: 1052 1178 1180 1181 1182 1183 - the guy who first answered correctly.

#2 ........etc

I can update your first post with all of them.


Unfortunately there are so many more item that you haven't unblocked and you won't be able to create that good puzzles. Like:

112 111 1061 1175 1144 83
Good luck :keepcool:
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