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Le Panthéon ! 1
Wednesday 13 May 2009 23:51
Sounds good... But I don't find any rule this could be based on...

c1 (probability "coeff. 1")
c2=2/3*c1
c3=1/3*c2
c4=1/8*c3
c5=1/11*c4
c6=1/3*c5
Maybe there is none ;)
Pyramid level: 1 133
Thursday 14 May 2009 06:01
So basically, there is a one in 20,000 chance of getting a coeff. 6 item? Well, that increases the reason why I am angry at the bottom lemon in level 36...
The 1'st coeff. 6 item (ace of hearts, happened 2 weeks ago), bottom lemon juice hit me, and the card dissapeared.
Well, I guess that summed up my question, I'm gonna beat up a million 1178 so I can feel a little better at my loss...
Le Panthéon ! 1
Thursday 14 May 2009 14:02
I can't say that the numbers are right. And I actually don't believe they are. I have played maybe 1 thousand games and have thousands of items. However I have only 1 coef6 item and I have much more coef 5 items than 1/2000 and far less than 1/3*C5. I get about 200-250 items per game and I get a coef 5 item every 2-3 games or so. Sometimes I get none in 5 games, sometimes I get 3 in one. So basically I get a Coef.5 once every 400-500 items. If Coef. 6 are 10 times rarer I must get a Coef 6 item soon. If they are 20 times rarer - maybe in a 1-2 months :D.
Le Panthéon ! 1
Thursday 14 May 2009 15:10
Remember that you can't count the first (number) items you got, before the chances were like that. I think there is a certain value of chance for each item, and as long as you can't get all the coeff. 6 items, the chances of getting *any* coeff. 6 are obviously lower (or maybe higher... depending on what you can get)
Le Panthéon ! 1
Thursday 14 May 2009 15:27
I have much more coef 5 items than 1/2000 and far less than 1/3*C5

3 chances in 2000

Did you misread it or are you saying you have less than 3/2000 coef 5 items in that last part of that sentence? I don't understand what you meant by it. Perhaps if you compare what you have to the percentage instead it would be closer? (3/2000 is slightly bigger than 0.14%).

Also, don't forget that its just approximate, especially when it comes to the coef 6 items. You also need to consider if the difference could just be an effect of randomness.

If I understand correctly, the person gathering data took numbers from several people, but wouldn't accept it if they had less than 10,000 items, but some were a lot higher than that; rollerfou having 80,000 items was mentioned. I don't think the fact that not all items appear when you first play was taken into account which may alter the results slightly, but only accepting info with 10,000 items or more would decrease that effect. I think that the coef 5 value isn't far off at least. I can't be sure about how accurate the value for coef 6 is without knowing more about how many items were contributed in total.

If you want to see where I got this from, take a look here.
Le Panthéon ! 1
Thursday 14 May 2009 15:51
Sorry for double posting, but I just realised I misremembered
but wouldn't accept it if they had less than 10,000 items, but some were a lot higher than that; rollerfou having 80,000 items was mentioned

What I should have said is lowest amount given was 10,000 items and the highest was rollerfou with 322,833 objects. This is from a post a bit further on in the thread. That post also mentioned 80,000 items, but the google translation wasn't good enough for me understand what that number was.
Le Panthéon ! 1
Thursday 14 May 2009 16:20
All I know is that I've played about 20 games to the end since I started counting, and I haven't seen ONE coeff5 item. I haven't seen one in AGES. I wonder what happened?

Dang you, Mr. Radish...
Le Panthéon ! 1
Thursday 14 May 2009 17:03
Hey can anyone who's gotten to here upload a video showing the levels before that? I can't find any :pleure:
Pyramid level: 2 107
Thursday 14 May 2009 17:31
I've seen a video one time how someone is going through the whole hell, until the N64, without using the BoS... :youpi:
My question - does someone know the link to this video??? Coz never mind what, I can't find it! :?

Thanks! 8)
Le Panthéon ! 1
Thursday 14 May 2009 17:49
Hey can anyone who's gotten to here upload a video showing the levels before that? I can't find any :pleure:

I don't have any to upload, but I can point out some videos of those levels:
This person has several videos including those levels.
This is a video of someone getting the pyramid pass, right from the start. From what it looks like to me, this person in general had a better technique than the previous person.
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