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Item Theory

Le Panthéon ! 1
Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 14:55
Am I right when I suspect you to have skipped my post?
Le Panthéon ! 1
Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 15:10
Well, I suppose the only way to figure out which time of day is being used (it's obviously not *hour*, or everyone would be having identical games all over the place) is to start a bunch of games during the same minute, and see if you get the same items more or less. Obviously people will always be getting a ton of coeff 1 and 2 items, so paying attention to which coeff 3 and 4 items you get would be more helpful I'd imagine.

In terms of seconds, it would be harder to try and start more than one game in the same second (possible if you're quick on the tab switch.) I don't think it's when you finish loading the game, but when you actually click the flash area to START the game that the item lists are loaded (just a theory).

With that said, maybe you could start a game at say, 9:00 and 30 seconds, and then set your clock back a minute, and then start another game when the clock says the same time again? I don't know if that would work; you programmers tell me. :lol:

At any rate, you're right, if it's milliseconds, then forget it.

Also something to take into consideration: if you ever actually found a way to get the item lists in different games to be the same, it would only be the list; you wouldn't get the same items on the same levels, and how many items you picked up would be dependent upon how many levels you actually played before losing your last life. You might have had a golden mushroom in a game's list, but if you lose before level [insert number here] you wouldn't see it anyway.

Sorry for the novel of a post.
Le Panthéon ! 1
Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 16:23
1) You're right

2) Again the question - what is the practical use? You get the same items, okay. But you will never know before whether you get a certain item or not
Le Panthéon ! 1
Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 16:35
I suppose you're right; since there's no way of guessing what items will be loaded onto the list, there's no way of telling whether you'll get a good item or not.

However, if people kept track of their data (i.e. when they started their games and what items were acquired) then it would certainly go a long ways towards figuring out when would be a good time to start a game if you're looking for coeff 5 or 6 items.
Le Panthéon ! 1
Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 16:38
"Certainly"? No - if it is something about milliseconds, there is no chance. And you would have to list your games REALLY long - when you have finished that, you have also unblocked the coeff.6s
Le Panthéon ! 1
Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 17:20
Oh, certainly if it was about milliseconds the endeavour would be useless.

But if even just the people who were active on the forums just kept a running log that's something like this:

game started at 9:30, 15 seconds: 2 coeff4s, 1 coeff5
game started at 12:23, 20 seconds: 4 coeff4s

I think we'd have a good chunk of data in a fairly short amount of time, given how often the people on the forum generally play.

At the end of it, you could at least pump the data into excel or something and get a correlation dot plot at the very least.
Pyramid level: 1 133
Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 17:51
time - 18:49:10sec
NO coeff 4 or 5 or 6, damn
Pyramid level: 1 133
Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 17:52
oh yeah, mirror & nightmare modes on
Le Panthéon ! 1
Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 21:20
You know, I have "noticed" certain things (as in I happen to notice when it happens but not when it doesn't) about items in certain levels. IE, on level 55 it seems that I get the treasure chest more often than not, and on level 28 I get the turtle more often than not, but this could be total imagination. I did also get 2 moss pearls on level 68 I think (the one with the three strawberries, and some oranges and a teleport on the right hand side).

I dunno if this means anything, but just throwing my two bits in.1144
Le Panthéon ! 1
Tuesday 21 Apr 2009 21:41
Now you mention it I notice that I don't remember having seen any treasure chest at level 55... I don't want to make fun of you, but I think it's just coincidence (yeah! I've been searching for this word the whole last week, now I remembered it :D )
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